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Post by chaney on Nov 1, 2008 14:18:17 GMT -5
63 dead wood elves, 1 dead chainsaw wielding maniac, 18 dead sorcerors, 19 dead witches, 22 dead vampires, 1 dead barbie doll.
I am so manly in my killing.
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Post by reyler on Dec 4, 2008 22:52:33 GMT -5
You know, I would ask for some recommendations from that 10k mp3 collection, but you like noise rock like Hella, so I'd be suspicious of anything else you were to recommend.
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Post by chaney on Dec 8, 2008 18:40:42 GMT -5
I can understand calling their newer stuff noise, but the guitar-drums duo stuff they did is absolutely not noise. Every note and beat was intentional and they were tighter than shit.
And in any case, I've been obsessed with old blues and jazz for about three years now and I listen to basically every genre of music.
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Post by reyler on Dec 9, 2008 1:19:04 GMT -5
Can you recommend anything recorded within the last twenty years that doesn't sound like a computer game and isn't like The Decemberists?
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Post by chaney on Dec 11, 2008 3:41:21 GMT -5
The Gossip album That's Not What I Heard. Bellini. Cause For Effect. Old Time Relijun. Lightning Bolt. Zs. Maybe Lightning Bolt sounds too much like a computer game...
I really haven't been doing very well at keeping up with new music the last couple years though.
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Post by reyler on Dec 11, 2008 16:56:45 GMT -5
And furthermore, what's a good resource for downloading all this that isn't Limewire and thusly gives me actual results instead of viruses masquerading as porn when I search for an obscure band?
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Post by reyler on Dec 11, 2008 17:05:36 GMT -5
*finds them all on last.fm* Holy shit, and when I was fifteen I practically fed off your taste in music. I hated every last one of those. Well, The Gossip was sort of okay, but I hated the rest of them.
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Post by chaney on Dec 13, 2008 17:09:39 GMT -5
Use Soulseek and make sure you're on the new server, because people who haven't migrated yet are a fucking buzzkill.
If it wasn't a Gossip song off of That's Not What I Heard (or Arkansas Heat, now that I think about it), then I probably don't like it either. Same goes for Old Time Relijun's last, uh, three albums... Gotta get back before 2000 I think. Also I have yet to find ANYONE who doesn't like Cause For Effect. Finnish bass and drums death metal? Come on.
And if you don't like all that stuff, try the stuff I've actually been listening to for the last three years. Billie Holiday, Skip James, Eric Dolphy, Duke Ellington, Bukkah White, Art Tatum, King Solomon Hill, Blind Willie Johnson, Max Roach... And with those blues players, make sure it's the stuff recorded before 1960, for the love of god.
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Post by chaney on Dec 13, 2008 17:25:40 GMT -5
I should probably mention that I usually listen to music by putting my entire collection on shuffle and that a very large chunk of it is traditional music, Alan Lomax recordings, etc... and that I prefer dramatic, inappropriate shifts in genre between songs. And I realize most people don't listen to music this way.
For example, it just went: A traditional "Gypsy Hora" Billie Holiday KRS-One the Flying Luttenbachers Bach Big Maybelle the Ruins Touchdown Rube Lacey R. Murray Schafer playing Le Cri de Merlin, mov. I - Violently (classical guitar) ...
Incidentally "Gabbin' Blues" by Big Maybelle and "Mississippi Jailhouse Groan" by Rube Lacey are awesome.
I want a show on Free Radio Olympia so I can name it Ear Schizo or some such.
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Post by reyler on Dec 14, 2008 23:55:29 GMT -5
I like older jazz and such well enough, but it's probably not something I enjoy commonly enough to keep on my computer. Lately I've been listening to a lot of so-called trip-hop and house out of England. Portishead and such, though that track I heard off Third sucked balls. Just Jack, Queenadreena, which is more metal, less-exposed grunge like Temple of the Dog (my new favorite album), and fluffy indie-pop such as The Format. I've tried listening to some of the indie music that Jeph Jacques spent most of the first 800 Questionable Content strips jabbering about, but I just can't get into it, and I won't even touch the death metal. My mp3 collection mostly consists of this stuff since a lot of the other stuff I like I've actually been able to find on cd.
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Post by reyler on Dec 14, 2008 23:58:24 GMT -5
And last.fm put The Ruins in my library because I had it set to play all the stuff it recommended based on everything it knew I had listened to already. I didn't know what the hell it was because it probably got played while I was in the shower. It also played me some Aimee Mann and Liz Phair because I have a Fiona Apple mp3 - what the fuck.
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Post by chaney on Dec 15, 2008 17:06:35 GMT -5
See, now you're bringing up the stuff I listened to when I was 15.
I've actually been caught up in old delta blues more than old jazz, but the old jazz is getting me now, I can't deny it. Also, I can't imagine how anyone could like Portishead and not like "Don't Explain" by Billie Holiday... but okay.
Questionable Content? huh wha?
Hmm. Hella did a split ep with a band called Dilute that I totally hated, but maybe it falls into that Temple of the Dog ish genre?
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Post by reyler on Dec 15, 2008 17:31:10 GMT -5
Yeah well you poisoned me pretty well back when we were 15 with your musical taste, the only difference between us being that mine didn't really end up shifting hard in new directions. And I never said I didn't like Billie Holiday, although she did have a habit of wandering through songs. Mostly I have trouble putting up with the horrible recording quality from back in the day. Questionable Content is a webcomic. You should read it because it is good!
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Post by chaney on Dec 15, 2008 19:01:50 GMT -5
Horrible recording quality? You clearly aren't into the delta blues, because Billie Holiday's 1930's recordings are crystal clear compared to a lot of those. They saved her bloody master tapes, what a concept! With a lot of the blues players, the masters were destroyed because studios didn't want to spend money storing "race records." We're stuck finding the best preserved vinyl copy. And the way she wandered through songs is part of why I love her... like she says in this clip "I don't think I ever sang the same way twice, I don't think I ever sang the same tempo, some nights it's a little bit slower, some night it's a little brighter, depending on how I feel. Blues is a mixed up thing..." That's probably my favorite Holiday performance right there, too... But it's a way slower, more drawn out version of an old, sort of poppy song. I've heard other recordings of it that I thought were totally unremarkable. Improv is like that, though. Playing music myself makes me appreciate it a lot more... playing music has just changed my taste in music in general, because it gives you a feel for what a player is trying to do, their approach, their mood, how successful they were at it... Sometimes people will play me a song now and it'll sound to me like the players are getting ready to go to sleep... they're not in the music at all, they're just going through the motions. A LOT of blues is like that, and I can't stand it... but that doesn't mean a simple 12-bar blues song can't be done with spirit and originality. Leadbelly's "Good Morning Blues" is as standard as you get, and yet it's awesome. With improv, though, it gets painfully obvious when someone's head isn't in the music... you can't go to sleep or the song will just fall apart. Some live Hella recordings are like that, because Zach Hill does a lot of improv, and sometimes he just annihilates the rhythm and they have to find it again. Other times he'll expand on it and totally blow my mind. Hopefully that made some sense. Music is mostly a feeling to me, and it has to seem honest and communicate with me or I'll hate it. I don't even really have a preference when it comes to genres anymore, I just need something that's genuine. I don't know if that makes any sense, but music doesn't really make any sense. My Soulseek username is HIILIKEFOODBYE ... I'd say go through my Traditional folder. Some days I'm not on at all, sometimes I leave it on for 50 hours straight.
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Post by reyler on Dec 16, 2008 0:13:02 GMT -5
I get what you mean, and that actually ties into what I sometimes think is what indie rock fans like about indie rock; that is, they appreciate the technical abilities of the performer over any actual listenability of the result. Not that I'm accusing you of that, I'm just saying I think that's how a lot of the music they listen to actually gets listened to, because if you actually *enjoy* music you couldn't touch the stuff.
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